The full-length version of this conversation was published in video form as part of Rachael Rice’s series, Confronting Whiteness.
I met Rachael and Marybeth online and we became familiar with each other’s work through Facebook conversations. It was evident to me from the beginning that these are women who know what time it is (#revolutiontime). If you’re on Insta, you should definitely follow them.
In this conversation, I tell the story of The Racist Dinner Party and I rant about white fragility in Well-intentioned White Women Sisterhood spaces. We grapple with the similarities between the Prosperity Gospel and the Law of Attraction as well as cultural appropriation in spiritual contexts.
I make the case for developing a more mature and nuanced relationship with shame and honour, and I implore white women to become more resilient when it comes to racial conversations. We debate the utility of Brené Brown’s research on shame when applied to racial justice work.
Here are the excellent resources cited in this episode:
The Bluest I Blog by Michelle R Smith
Is Shame Necessary?: New Uses For An Old Tool by Jennifer Jacquet